Former EXODUS frontman Rob Dukes was interviewed by rock journalistMitch Lafon for a recent edition of the “One On One With Mitch Lafon” podcast. Here’s an excerpt where Dukes opens fire against Cuck Billy regarding the matter of Dukes’ firing from Exodus:
“I think Chuck’s responsible for it. I think Chuck and their management, Metal Maria, I think they were looking at [EXODUS’s] record sales from the ’80s and they were baiting them into, ‘Look, if you do this, you’re gonna get this.’ I mean, I was there for it. I even spoke up. I even said it in front of Chuck to his face. I said, ‘Gary, I think it’s a conflict of interest having the singer of TESTAMENT be your fucking manager. Because, what makes you think that he’s not gonna put his own band ahead of you every single fucking time? It’s a conflict of interest, Gary. This is not a good thing to happen.’ And they were, like, ‘No, I don’t think it’s a bad thing at all. I think it’s fine.’ And I’m, like, ‘Ah, okay.’ And you know what? That’s kind of what they did… Let me give you a scenario. METALLICA calls [EXODUS’s] management, and they say, ‘Hey, man, we want EXODUS on this tour.’ What’s gonna keep Chuck Billy from going, ‘Well, I don’t know if EXODUS will work out, but I know TESTAMENT can do it.’ Do you know what I mean? Why wouldn’t he do that? I’ll tell you this: I would do it. I would fucking do it in a fucking second. ‘Cause I’m fucking honest. But nobody there in that whole world is honest. It’s all craziness. And I’m glad to be out, dude. Honestly, it’s like this weight lifted off my shoulders. And like I said, it fucking hurt for a minute, because it was fucking fun and it was cool; it was a cool fucking thing I was doing. It was fucking enjoyable, and to lose that sucked. But you know what? It’s not all of me. It’s not everything. It wasn’t my entire being. It was a part of my life that I don’t regret. I’m grateful for it. I’m grateful for the opportunity and the shit that I got to do. And I love the experiences that I’ve acquired over the years, man, but I’m not gonna die without it. I’m gonna move on. I’m gonna go on without it, ’cause it didn’t define me as a human being. What defines me is how I treat my friends and my family and the man that I am walking around on the planet.”